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The challenge
of developmental education is a longstanding issue of American
Community Colleges' open-door mission. Despite seminal studies
of developmental education needs in the 1980s, and national
program development and assessment measures of the 1990s,
the problem of the underprepared college student remains.
According to Robert McCabe in No One to Waste: A Report
to Public Decision-Makers and Community College Leaders
(2000), nearly one-third of U.S. students entering higher
education are academically underprepared, and more than
a million students enroll in community college remedial
education each year. John and Suanne Roueche warn in
High Stakes, High Performance: Making Remedial Education
Work (1999) that students' skills are at the lowest
point in American history. The American Association of Community
Colleges released several recommendations to strengthen
remedial education programs; among them are "Foster collaborations
with educational agencies in the community; among college,
middle school, and high school instructors regarding requirements
for success in college-level courses; with four-year colleges
and university to strengthen their assessment efforts and
remedial initiative...and conduct staff development and
training program for faculty, staff, and administrators."
Despite the research and recommendations on remedial education,
little information has historically been shared past the
walls of each institution and opportunities for partnerships
in professional workshops have been virtually nonexistent.
Furthermore, in the secondary educational factions, examination
of the senior year of high school indicates students are
generally unmotivated, and teachers and administrators have
often viewed the final year of high school as a transition
period in which senior students disengage from their environment.
Surveys by James Rosenbaum in 1998 revealed work-bound and
college-bound students alike felt "bad school performance
in high school is not necessarily a barrier to attaining
their future careers." In June 2000, the Commission on the
High School Senior Year, U.S. Department of Education, was
formed to "make recommendations on how to make the last
years of high school, especially the senior year, more productive
and how to improve transitions to college." Their overall
findings indicate students needed more opportunities to
enroll in upper-level coursework.
In May 2001, the Commission on the High School Senior Year
concluded that the high school senior year is largely a
waste and that schools nationwide are failing to prepare
graduates for college or work. The Commission published
Raising Our Sights: No High School Senior Left Behind
in October 2001. Recommendations were to improve alignment
among secondary and postsecondary institutions, raise student
achievement, and provide more learning alternatives. The
report described the need for a more unified system of education
from preschool to postsecondary education with integrated
standards, curriculum, and assessment measures. For schools
to accomplish these goals, the commission referenced 20
states that have created P - 16 councils to "ramp up performance,
improve teacher preparation, and strengthen relationships
between schools and two- and four-year institutions" (14).
The report encourages K-12 and higher education to form
a common, focused approach to helping students reach higher
standards.
Background and Origins
Historically, high
school teachers have not been given time to cooperatively
plan and refine best practices to teach writing; college
faculty, often unaware of high school teaching issues, have
not been exposed to high school curriculum to align their
instruction with secondary practices. Meanwhile, high school
administrators have been concerned with hiring teachers
and maintaining graduation rates; college administrators
have been concerned with increasing enrollment numbers and
meeting accreditation standards. In addition, each institution
has been tasked with widespread assessment in response to
the public's concern for quality education.
Noting history, performance, and need, Tidewater Community
College (TCC) faculty proposed a collaborative project with
the local school district that addressed the need to work
in partnership to quantify instruction with comparative
data; moreover, the focus of the project was to improve
the quality of the experience in the senior year of high
school to better prepare recent high school graduates for
success in college-level courses.
Finding that large numbers of graduates of Salem High School
(SHS) in Virginia Beach, VA, were being required to enroll
in remedial/developmental English courses at the Virginia
Beach Campus of Tidewater Community College (TCC), high
school English teachers questioned the diagnostic/placement
tool used to place students in freshman college transfer
or remedial/developmental composition courses. In 1997,
the college responded by selecting a team of English faculty
to research student readiness for college, writing assessment,
and composition pedagogy. High school teachers and senior
English students were surveyed to determine their respective
needs and perceptions related to writing instruction. The
surveys revealed that few high school teachers had been
trained in writing pedagogy or had opportunities for professional
development in teaching composition. Surveys also indicated
that most high school students reacted negatively to assigned
writing tasks and were uncomfortable with composing for
the English classroom.
State and local reports substantiated survey findings and
local trends. In the State of Virginia, (1) high school
seniors were graduating with deficient writing skills and
(2) postsecondary developmental programs were expanding.
In 1995-1996, one in four Virginia public high school graduates
enrolled in remedial classes in Virginia state-supported
colleges. Likewise, in 1995-1996, high school graduates
attending TCC were placed in developmental composition at
an average rate of 48.4 percent.
Tidewater Community College and Salem High School (SHS)
Faculty acknowledged little understanding of each other's
curriculum or writing standards. Faculty from both institutions
met and determined a need for collaboration to identify
strategies and implement activities to improve placement
and preparation of students for college composition. To
align writing instruction from secondary to postsecondary
institutions, the college secured a grant from the U.S.
Department of Education's Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary
Education (FIPSE) to fund a joint problem-solving partnership
with TCC and SHS, part of the Virginia Beach City Public
Schools (VBCPS).
Project Development
Prior to the grant-funded project, almost no collaboration
existed between the secondary and postsecondary institutions.
Each institution operated in its own system with little
or no dialogue between faculties and negligible communication
between student bodies. Although student assessment data
were gathered at each institution, no evaluation of student
success was shared; thus, neither institution was aware
of any inherent problems in student achievement. Likewise,
students enrolling in community colleges across the nation
found themselves underprepared at a rate of 40 percent.
Students assumed teaching faculties at the separate institutions
were collaborating and that their high school curriculum
was developed to prepare them for college work. Aligning
writing instruction with secondary and postsecondary institutions
was necessary to create a seamless transition for graduating
high school students preparing to enroll in college courses.
The use of a single indicator of student readiness for college
work was another concern of this collaborative project.
The traditional placement and assessment practice at TCC,
and many colleges across the nation, is to administer a
commercially produced tool, which is essentially an editing
test. Advocates of this standardized process purport the
advantages inherent in its reliability, expense, and application.
Opponents respond that multiple-choice examinations do not
provide authentic writing assessment.
In the face of great educational challenges, shrinking college
budgets, and growing populations of developmental learners,
TCC and SHS Project Staff identified three main goals of
the project.
(1) Develop and disseminate a model for staff development
in writing instruction.
(2) Improve student writing and increase the number of students
competent to take college composition.
(3) Validate a multiple-measures writing placement procedure.
Develop a Model for Writing Instruction:
To develop and disseminate a model for staff development
in writing instruction, successful components of the project
included collaborative workshops for high school and college
educators; exploration of innovative instructional strategies
to promote student accountability for progress; high school
writing centers for extended dialogue and practice; multiple
measures of authentic assessment; and ongoing collaboration
among high school teachers, students, and college faculty.
Based on the initial survey of SHS English teachers, professional
development opportunities were implemented to enable instructors
from both institutions to meet, discuss, and create improved
approaches to writing instruction to better align their
respective curriculum. Six primary instructional needs were
identified.
(1) Engage students' interest in writing.
(2) Clearly articulate college writing requirements.
(3) Emphasize instruction on editing and proofreading.
(4) Clarify requirements of the Virginia Standards of Learning.
(5) Revise syllabi to include collaborative writing strategies.
(6) Develop ongoing teacher self-assessment.
Weekly roundtables served as an arena for professional discussion
of topics and strategies; moreover, a minimum of four workshops
were developed and facilitated by the college site leader
to foster a re-examination of instructional standards, identification
of common strands, classroom experimentation, and implementation
of reflective teaching practices. In addition to project
personnel, English faculties from all area high schools
and TCC campuses were invited to attend. Each workshop was
a full day session with presentations and discussions related
to concerns and problems voiced by writing teachers. Workshops
were held in neutral territory sites, such as community
clubhouses, and meeting rooms were staged as round table
forums to create an atmosphere for cross-institutional sharing.
Beyond leadership, TCC provided audiovisual support and
refreshments. Staff development topics included "Engaging
Student Interest in Writing," "Classroom Management &
The Revision Process," and "The Changing Role of the Instructor."
Dr. Kathleen Yancey, author of Portfolios in the Writing
Classroom, was contracted as a writing consultant to
the project in 1998. Dr. Yancey worked with secondary and
postsecondary instructors over the three-year period to
develop and refine portfolio pedagogy for instruction and
assessment. She has also been contracted by VBCPS to assist
K-12 teachers in adopting portfolio methodology. By 2004,
the school system serving 78,000 students intends to have
portfolios in place as institutional evaluations of classroom
instruction. A review of faculty evaluations of project
workshops reflects the high value placed on these activities.
Specific comments about how participants planned to apply
the information gained in these sessions reflect the relevancy
and importance of the workshops to professional development
and classroom application. Participants were expressive
about their goals.
"Focus
my teaching and emphasize what I value when assessing
student writing."
"Think how to move us to portfolio evaluation for exit
purposes."
"Develop life-long independent learners"
Improve
Student Writing and Placement Progress:
This multi-faceted approach, collaboration among college
faculty, high school instructors, and students, resulted
in significant and immediate gains. Institutional partnership
activities included high school students' touring the college
campus and meeting with administrators, faculties, and college
students; receiving college library cards; and using computer
research and laboratory resources. A letter writing dialogue
between high school seniors and college freshmen provided
another opportunity for interpersonal communication. In
their correspondence with college students, high school
seniors were exposed firsthand to the importance of careful
preparation for higher education. Prompted to relate what
a student should do to prepare for college writing, one
college freshman responded, "The main strategies in becoming
successful in college English are 1) go to all your classes
2) take excellent notes 3) write in a very clear style without
'rambling' 4) be prepared to write a lot."
Secondary students were enthusiastic about this activity
as demonstrated by a high school senior's comment, "Being
able to write to a college student and get advice for next
year has been wonderful. You [the college student] have
answered many of my questions and given me very good tips."
Collaborative activities enabled students to recognize that
high school achievement is highly relevant to their future
goals.
To provide a writing community, an extended audience for
student writing and practice in self-assessment and reflection,
the college sponsored a high school writing center modeled
on the college version. Trained by the project director,
advanced high school students and project teachers assisted
students in planning, editing, and revising compositions.
The college leader led one-hour training sessions in the
high school for dual enrollment and advanced placement students
to learn and practice writing center tutorial strategies.
The college facilitated the establishment of the writing
center by providing writing handbooks, professionally developed
worksheets, and other ancillary materials. The center, based
in a teacher's classroom, included computer access to online
resources and a telephone to enable students to call the
college's Grammar Hotline. The center hours included time
before and after school, during student lunches, and study
halls. As the center expanded its offerings each year, the
number of high school student visits increased. In the second
year, 1090 student visits were recorded; overall, during
its three years of operation, over 3000 students and 45
teachers from every department in the high school used the
writing center services. Students who volunteered as consultants
also improved their composition skills. One student remarked,
"Working in the writing center helped me help others write.
Because of this, I improved myself." In Year Two of the
project, the college sponsored a second writing center at
an additional high school site; a third one was established
at another high school by the final year of the project.
Validate Multiple Measures of Placement:
Initially, time and money needed to be allocated
to train teachers from both institutions to develop rubrics,
identify anchor papers, and read portfolios for college
placement; however, as demonstrated in this project, by
the third year, experienced readers reviewed portfolios
and placed students reliably and efficiently. Each year
of the project, students accumulated and revised their compositions
for presentation portfolios; during the year, high school
teachers and students reviewed the work noting progression
of learning and skills. Students are now successfully placed
in college-level work through a collaborative high school/college
evaluation of their portfolios. Portfolio assessment for
writing placement by the college has demonstrated support
for authentic student performance as well as affirmed high
school writing achievement. As a result of this piloting
of portfolio assessment, the college is expanding this alternative
placement method to other area high school graduates.
Moreover, students placed by multiple measures of authentic
assessment consistently out-place and outperform traditionally
placed college composition students. Project students who
enrolled in TCC in the fall of 2000 and placed into college
composition using project placement instruments achieved
an 87 percent success rate as compared to the control group's
70 percent success rate. Success rate was determined by
earning an A, B, or C from a given course of study.
Project Evaluation and Results
As a result of project initiatives applied in a focused
setting, high school and college students have demonstrated
improved writing performances and learned to value their
writing experiences. Since 1998, approximately 200 senior
high school students in the program were randomly assigned
to English teachers, who voluntarily participated in the
program. These teachers worked closely with college faculty
to monitor student achievement. All senior sections project
teachers became the study group students, while students
in other senior classes became the control group students.
Given the transitory nature of this area, approximately
150 students participated in pre and post testing each year.
While pre and post test data measured improvements in student
writing skills, study and control group comparative data
provided information about the singular effects of project
participation. In each of the three years' data, a significant
relationship was found between student participation in
the study versus the control group.
Students in the study group and a similar control group
were assessed at the beginning and closing of the school
years using COMPASS, timed writing samples, and at the end
of the year, study-group students submitted portfolios of
their work for placement purposes. Students placed by multiple
measures of authentic assessment consistently out-placed
and outperformed traditionally placed college composition
students. Project students who enrolled in TCC in the fall
of 2000 and placed into college composition using project
placement instruments achieved an 87 percent success rate
as compared to the control group's 70 percent success rate.
An A, B, or C in a given course of study determined success
rate.
Following project objectives, faculty from both institutions
convened regularly to review instructional strategies. Through
cooperative participation in professional workshops, high
school teachers from 12 VBCPS schools and 4 campuses of
TCC developed innovative approaches to teaching and evaluating
writing. Anecdotal and statistical data demonstrated immediate
and dramatic improvement in student readiness and success
in college composition as a result of this project model.
As a result of project activities, high school students
in the study group consistently outperformed control-group
students each year. Data in 1999-2000 revealed that students
made a 33.75 percent increase in readiness for college composition.
Moreover, teacher and student confidence as partners in
the writing classroom flourished.
Pre, post, and tracking data substantiate the contributions
of project activities to increasing student competence to
enroll in and successfully complete college-level composition.
According to project evaluator Dr. Barbara Bonham, Appalachian
State University, "The data clearly indicates improvement
in writing skills of the high school seniors participating
in the project." Each year, approximately 20 percent more
study group students placed into nondevelopmental courses.
In her observation and review of the project, Dr. Bonham
reports:
Students
who were in the study group were placed in English courses
using their COMPASS scores, writing sample scores, and
portfolio score. Students in the control group were placed
using TCC's traditional method of examining the student's
COMPASS score and writing sample score. Although this
was the first year this data could be collected, it was
an early indication that the use of portfolio assessment
increases the accuracy of placement as well as contributes
to students' higher achievement.
It should be noted that 82 percent of the students in
the project group who placed in ENG 111 had earned a grade
of C or better compared with only 50 percent of the control
group students. Data from TCC's developmental English
program reveals that the pass rate generally averages
about 70 percent. So not only were more students placed
in ENG 111, but a higher percentage of them passed the
course with a C or above.
The use of portfolio assessment not only impacts the ability
of faculty to assess students and more accurately place
them in an appropriate course but also is a very effective
instructional strategy. There was a high level of motivation
and interest among the students participating in classes
in which the portfolios were used. Students were eager
to share their portfolios with me as I visited their classes.
They had accomplished something for which they had ownership
and great pride. This is not easily accomplished with
high school students. The students were proud of their
writing and enjoyed the process of writing. This is certainly
an accomplishment.
Along with
quantifiable data, observers of project students and readers
of their portfolios surmised students had learned to value
themselves as writers. To demonstrate that this increasing
sense of confidence was the result of project activities,
teachers in the control and study groups administered a
locus of control instrument at the beginning and end of
the school year. This attitudinal tool identified student
perceptions of internal versus external control of their
academic environment. The results further demonstrated the
value of participation in the project as students in the
study group had an average gain in internal control of 59.3
points over the year, as opposed to the control group's
loss of 11.7 points.
In addition to student results, the participating teachers
at the high school site became mentors for their peers and
models for writing instruction. When teachers were surveyed
about the effects on their teaching as a result of participation
in this project, their reflections confirmed the professional
value of collaboration. One teacher wrote:
When
I began this project, I was a typical by the book type
of teacher. I relied heavily on the curriculum guides,
worksheets, handouts, etc. As far as writing went, I was
weak in many areas. Some of them were developing ideas,
motivating students to complete work, and editing their
work. My strengths were that I wanted to be successful
and help my students to become better writers... Now,
I actually look forward to getting my students involved
in writing assignments and helping them overcome their
own fears about writing... Having attended many interesting
writing workshops in national conferences, I always want
to try new and exciting ways to encourage writing... My
suggestion to ensure the grant's objectives would be to
not be afraid to try something new...no matter how silly
or stupid it appears on the surface. The students seem
to react positively to that concept.
Another high
school project teacher echoed with admonition, "We as teachers
should always embrace change." At the conclusion of the
grant period, the teachers from Salem High and the project
director presented an all-day workshop for college and high
school faculties to share strategies for teaching composition,
facilitating a writing center, and implementing portfolios
in the classroom. Additionally, the project teachers created
and the project director edited a compendium of teaching
ideas and a writing center handbook, published by the college
for dissemination locally and nationally.
College faculty who participated in workshops with high
school teachers returned to their classrooms with renewed
vigor. One instructor wrote:
Participating
in the project has caused me to evaluate both my teaching
style and my expectation of the students enrolled in my
classes. I have returned to requiring students to write
a narrative essay at the beginning of the semester since
much of the high school writing seems to center on the
writer's self. Also, each student is required to keep
all of his or her graded essays and accompanying rough
drafts in a folder-similar to a portfolio. The contents
of this folder become the sources of a self-evaluation
of the progress the student made in English Composition.
The greatest strength of the project might be the interactions
between the high school English teachers and the community
college faculty. After participating in open discussions,
each side understands the other a bit more and assigns
less blame.
Each opportunity
for collaboration has resulted in renewed enthusiasm for
teaching and learning. Participants in workshops have praised
the opportunities to network and share ideas across institutional
lines. Students who have transferred to the college have
reported the value of project strategies in their coursework.
Teachers in area high schools who have been exposed to the
team approach have requested further collaborative opportunities
with the college. Two and four-year college faculties who
have attended state and national professional conference
presentations made by the project personnel have requested
assistance in duplicating the model's objectives and activities
at their remote sites.
Lessons Learned
To undertake a project of this nature, organizational policies
related to traditional teacher responsibilities needed to
be altered and expanded. As a project director, I have gained
a myriad of insights into a range of topics, from collaborative
strategies to interventions that improve student preparation
for college composition. The overriding motif of all the
progress that has been accomplished is the vital role of
the teacher in making a difference in the success of the
student. When teachers are given the tools and support they
need to instruct, students succeed. As a result of this
project, teachers have realized that they can teach more
with less; correspondingly, they have recognized the value
of emphasizing the writing process and de-emphasizing coverage
of extensive bodies of textual content. Despite time restraints
and multiple social and educational issues inherent in the
final year of high school, teachers have adopted a focused
approach to writing instruction and altered their roles
from dispensers of information to coaches of composition.
Portfolio instruction has led to a change in the manner
in which students and teachers approach writing. One project
teacher described this change: "I enjoy the quiet time at
my desk with the student and I realize that class can function
without the teacher standing at the front of the room. I
am needed now as a tour guide. I can instruct in an unobtrusive
manner and the results are outstanding because the students
are empowered to complete all the tasks because of their
sense of ownership." Portfolios have also provided a vital
link between the high school classroom and college entrance
hurdles as they demonstrate not only the increased responsibility
of students to improve and exhibit their skills but also
confirm the value of high school writing instructional practices
when used for placement purposes. With ongoing opportunities
for teachers to dialogue with their colleagues in the high
school and at the college, teachers have been able to experiment
with innovation strategies to better align instruction between
secondary and postsecondary institutions.
Administering this project has prompted personnel to develop
mediation, negotiation, and coping skills to work through
problems related to personnel, calendars, schedules, and
budgets. Each member of the project needs to be nurtured
and rewarded for contributions; likewise, each member needs
to be accountable for time and monies expended to effect
project objectives. Regular communication is essential;
however, to provide meaningful structure, agendas need to
be constructed with opportunities for mutual input. Progress
reports need to be maintained and presented to administrators.
The varying schedules of secondary and postsecondary institutions
as well as working hours need to be considered in planning
opportunities for discussion, professional development workshops,
and student activities. Working within the parameters of
three separate accounting systems (federal, state, city)
requires careful attention to detail and bureaucratic sequence.
The success of a collaborative project is directly related
to the willingness of its participants to engage in ongoing,
open communication and extend the boundaries of each institution.
Collaboration requires a focused approach to dealing with
issues of consequence, clear identification of stakeholders,
formation of a team with common goals, opportunities for
early and ongoing success, meaningful involvement, and acceptance
of conflict as a natural product of innovation, change,
and growth. Project members have learned to take risks and
negotiate in an arena of personal and professional interaction.
Initially, two TCC instructors co-directed the project that
served approximately 200 senior English students from SHS.
In Year One, the SHS instructional team included the high
school English department chair, a teacher of English 12/College
Composition dual enrollment, three English 12 teachers,
and an alternate teacher. Over the three-year period of
the project, staffing was reduced to one college director,
one high school English department chair/site leader, and
three English 12 teachers. The change in personnel led to
further emphasis on a focused team approach to innovation
and collaboration.
Practitioners interested in replicating this model should
research their sites to ensure that all members of the project
team, especially from the college, are open to change, adaptable,
and willing to grow. Preliminary collaborative initiatives,
established cooperative activities, or both can serve as
the foundation for adapting this model. College site leaders
need to be selected based on demonstrated leadership at
their institutions in partnership opportunities. The college
should allocate sufficient time and resources to the leader
to regularly meet with secondary personnel and plan collaborative
activities. Administrators need to commit financial support
for direct and indirect cost sharing as well as institutional
support for continuation of the efforts of the project.
As a result of "doing" this project, I have learned to listen,
adjust, reinvent, and revise; more important, I have been
part of a powerful movement to develop and foster partnerships
across classrooms and institutions to enable teachers and
students to succeed. The project has provided an arena for
experimentation, innovation, and refinement of strategies
to instruct and assess student writing. In each of the three
years' data, a significant relationship was found between
student participation in the study versus a control group.
Each year, approximately 20 percent more study-group students
placed into non-developmental courses. Of the students who
originally placed into remedial composition, 33.75 percent
made positive changes in end-of-year testing. Tracking the
progress of graduating seniors further demonstrated positive
effects of the project. With data substantiating the value
of project activities towards increasing student competence
to enroll in and successfully complete college-level composition,
this collaborative model has potential to reform educational
practices. Being part of a reform movement based on teachers
identifying and employing solutions to problems has confirmed
my belief in working within and among institutions to effect
change. Moreover, this project has brought renewed enthusiasm
for addressing national concerns to both high school and
college faculties.
Project Summary
Each year has challenged participants to maintain ongoing
dialogue to perpetuate collaboration in traditionally isolated
settings. Collaboration is a dynamic process, one which
demands commitment and flexibility. Participants need support
from their peers and institutions to negotiate the changing
roles inherent in partnership relations. Project personnel
need to maintain open lines of communication with administrative
support. To expose leaders from both institutions to project
activities and results, this project utilized an advisory
board with representatives from all aspects of the partnership.
Meeting regularly, the board members reviewed the project
and offered advice. Cooperative dissemination of project
results is essential to accepting and institutionalizing
project strategies. Project personnel need support from
their institutions to prepare and disseminate presentation
materials to local, regional, and national audiences.
Genuine collaboration between secondary and postsecondary
institutions on a faculty level continues to be uncommon.
To preserve the pioneering efforts of this grant project
and others in this area of interest, communication strands
need to be maintained and strengthened. The efforts to bring
college and high school teachers together to plan and devise
collaborative strategies need to be recognized for their
successes in student learning and supported institutionally
for continuation. The concept of K-college education is
growing with many secondary schools including postsecondary
subjects in their curriculum. The fear among postsecondary
educators is that this trend will lead to a dumbing-down
of subject matter. Moreover, two and four-year colleges
are being requested to develop placement testing in multiple
academic areas to identify unprepared students. The State
of Virginia is requiring public four-year colleges to assess
their students' writing in the coming school year and will
be releasing assessment information yearly, starting in
the summer of 2002. In Bridging the Gap: High School to
College Matriculation, a compilation of proceedings from
the First International Meeting on Future Directions in
Developmental Education in October 1999, educators raised
the question: "Should the focus of developmental education
be working with the high schools, working with students
once they enter postsecondary institutions, or both?" This
project has demonstrated the importance of college and high
school faculty working together to improve student readiness
and preserve the quality of college coursework. Collaboration,
across institutions, is the essential component of this
model.
For more
information, contact
Chris Jennings
Associate Professor or English
Director of FIPSE Writing Coalition
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